The men’s rights advocates are making a huge tactical error right from inception, which is to counter feminism with feminism from bizarro world. For those of you that don’t know, Bizarro World is from the DC comics universe where Superman lives. The Bizarro World is the backwards version of our world. It’s not actually the opposite, it’s identically constructed with details being opposite. Like the Bizarro World US president lives in the Black House which is identical to the White House, but black.
Feminism is not a logical construct and to argue against it with an identically framed system is to lose the battle before it’s begun. It’s all right there in the name, kids, “feminism” not “feminology” or “Equity Theory” but feminism. Right there in the name it’s an ISM and as an ism there has to be a basic core belief. That core belief in feminism is a false belief in an oppressive anti woman dogma called the patriarchy. Basically all feminism is rooted in the idea that women are victims and men are the oppressors. When you flip feminism on its head, you have to make the claim that men are victims and women are oppressors. While that may be equally true, I’m not here to decide if that is in fact, the case. I’m here to say that the public perception is never going to align with that, and it’s a pointless exercise. Think of feminists like religious people, the only difference in their fervor is that religious people will admit that their beliefs are based on faith and aren’t logical.
Forming a pro-male feminism of some sort is not a productive way to pass the time. A bunch of people tried to do something like that once, and we call them satanists. For those of you who don’t know, with the exception of some crackpots back in the hippy times, Satanists are Atheists. I once had a knock down drag out brawl with someone on facebook over this cartoon from the oatmeal.
He agreed that the face of radical atheism looked like that. I said it looks to me like more like burning churches in Norway. The guy was incapable of understanding how atheists were worshiping Satan when atheists don’t believe satan exists, and it just went to absurdity involving him throwing a tantrum and blocking me, so I am going to explain this very slowly, because it seems some atheists are too stupid to understand simple logic and get offended on levels usually reserved for zealotry. Satanists are a fancy kind of atheist who use Satan as a symbol for their independence from god and their ceremonies aren’t to a dark lord in whom they believe, but they are a copy of what christians do to make them look ridiculous. Trying to do this with “masculism” is exactly what the Satanists were up to and it’s pretty obvious they made zero headway in their crusades and sat around and preached to each other. If anything they only proved to the devout that they were right and the enemy was among them. That’s what Men’s Rights are.
That’s not to say that there are no issues there to address, there certainly are, but modeling it in a way that mirrors feminism isn’t going to work, because feminism requires an appeal to emotion that isn’t available for most people. Feminism isn’t a study, it’s a lens by which people see the world. People don’t easily give up their lenses, because it’s the framework for how they perceive the world, and in fact, think. It doesn’t matter if it’s catholicism, atheism, feminism, communism or any ism. Once someone has committed their mind to an ism, it’s tougher to get out than a badger in his hole.
For example a hot issue is the gender wage gap. The president of the US was on TV not too long ago claimed that women make 77 cents on the dollar as compared to their male counterparts. When I looked at the number as corrected by NOW which the white house put out I figured out what number they were using by looking at the department of labor’s website. They were comparing male college grads to female college grads. In other words they were putting MBAs and BAs in Celtic Studies on equal footing. Women are far more likely to pursue degrees in fields that pay non monetary benefits like Art History. Women are also far more likely to do well in the school system designed and run mostly by women and go on to college at all, so the men that do go to college tend to be better than average.
Politifact, which has historically been Obama friendly, rated this as mostly false. People still believe this though, and that’s why masculism can’t work. Fighting against their ism with an ism is Brer Rabbit and the tar baby.
(the african folklore version not the horrible horrible racist thing made by Disney in the 40’s. I guess we can be thankful the artists decided against giving it a mouth)
Once on the path of arguing numbers the argument is already lost. Men make more money than women because the measure of a man is how much money he makes. Men make more because they are encouraged to make money where women are encouraged to find fulfilling work. Second wave feminism was about giving women a choice. They got their choice and they chose. Now feminists are trying to convince women that they are victims because as a gender they make less money than the other gender. Feminists generally cherry pick by getting offended whenever there is a difference and reverse engineering why it’s patriarchal oppression.
The truth is the ones who as a group are doing the most damage to women, are the feminists. By teaching women to constantly see themselves as victims who are getting shortchanged, they are effectively making women feel small and powerless for personal gain. Think of the feminists as tent revival charlatan ministers. They offer solutions, monetize the fervor of the crowd to fill their pockets, then split for the next town. It doesn’t matter what the issue is, they will bring the same tired shit to town. Patriarchy blah blah blah. You can tell when someone is pulling this because they point out flaws without giving a portrait of how it should look. For example if a feminist said that the pay gap should be closed by encouraging women to make longer commutes, work more solitary and or dangerous jobs, and men should look for shorter hours and less fulfilling work until the pay rate, suicide rate, and amount of free time are all in parity among the genders, that would be an appeal to equality. No feminist would ever say that because it points out that the “male privilege” either has a parallel female privilege or is a result of individual choices that people can opt in and out of regardless of gender, and once women are portrayed as anything other than the victim, there is no argument.
Feminists even have a lexicon intended entirely to stop any discussion about male disadvantage. First of all any time a man points out that the systemic advantage of males, as in the case of the pay gap isn’t really an advantage but a choice they will be accused of “derailing”. If they further point out for example men have a lower job satisfaction rate they will be answered with “What about the menz?” a phrase meant to systematically marginalize these arguments without addressing them. If anyone tries using hard data after that they will be excused of “mansplaining” which is such a horribly stupid word it makes my skin itch every time I see it. It’s not even clever and doesn’t even make sense to anyone that doesn’t think man is synonymous with condescending rapist. They control thoughts with repeated mantras like a cult. The most vitriolic is teach men not to rape. In just that sentence, they paint all men as rapists. No other crime is talked about like that. We don’t say teach men not to bank rob, because we all inherently know that most men aren’t bank robbers and all men know bank robbing is wrong, but some people just take what they want. The rape culture is a construct made by feminists, in order to gain power and attention at the expense of actual victims.
“The truth is that both sexes participate in unwanted sexual activity. A feminist who was brave enough to ask these broad-based questions of both sexes astonished herself to discover that 94 percent of the men (as well as 98 percent of the women) said they had an unwanted sexual activity by the time they were in college. Even more surprising was her finding, reported in the Journal of Sex Research, that 63 percent of the men and 46 percent of the women said they had experienced unwanted intercourse. By feminist definitions of rape as unwanted sex, virtually everybody has been raped. And that’s how rape begins to look like an epidemic. It’s also how rape gets trivialized.” –Warren Farrell PHD, 3 time board member for the National Organization for Women
Men call it coyote ugly, women call it a mistake, feminists call it rape.
This constant reinforcement of the idea of men as rapists is not just damaging to women, but what kind of message is that to send to our young men? All men rape? It has been proven that thinking the rate of deviant behavior is more common than it actually is, increases the likelihood of engaging in that deviant behavior. College campuses have been distributing information about the rate of binge drinking, and it correlates with lower levels of binge drinking because people otherwise assume binge drinking is more common that it is. It’s called social comparison theory. If boys are constantly told they are something, they grow up into that. It’s feminists that truly make rape culture a prevalent thing, and that’s because every movement, every ism needs a boogeyman.
I mean, I’m just tired of being wrong all the time just because I’m a guy. I mean how many times can everybody tell you that you’re the oppressive, prejudiced enemy before you give up and become the enemy. I mean a male, chauvinist pig isn’t born, he’s made, and more and more of them are being made by women. After long enough you just roll over and accept the fact that you’re a sexist, bigoted, insensitive, crude, cretinist cretin. Women are right. You’re wrong. You get used to the idea. You live down to expectations. Even if the shoe doesn’t fit, you’ll shrink to fill it. -Chuck Palahniuk, Choke
The key to arguing with feminists is to argue real equality. Not to spot check them and point out the patriarchy is just as advantageous to women and men, and therefore is stupidly named, the only way to fight for men’s rights is to fight for rights period. Arguments for honest to goodness equality are a lot harder to shout over with “WHAT ABOUT THE MENZ?”